009 – Lisa Yebuah Leads Us to Lament

I was recently introduced to Lisa by a mutual friend and immediately knew that she was someone who I needed to know more and learn from. Lisa is the Pastor at Southeast Raleigh Table, and on June 1 she led her church through a service of lament for all of the things we’re experiencing right now. I had no idea how much I needed to lament until I participated in this service. ⁣

Lisa graciously allowed me to rebroadcast it on my podcast. Set aside an hour to be able to fully experience it at one time, I think it will be worth your time

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008 – Goodie Goodloe Offers a Prophetic Witness

We’re joined by my friend Dr. Marcus “Goodie” Goodloe. Goodie traveled to Minneapolis to the site of George Floyd’s murder to bear prophetic witness and joins with me to bear that witness to us all. As a scholar on MLK, he helps us to think about what Dr. King might be saying to us today as well.

You may at times feel a bit uncomfortable, but I’d encourage you to sit with what he’s saying and to allow it to hit you without being defensive or giving excuse.

Links mentioned:

White Fragility

What You Can Do – Article by Goodie

GoodieGoodloe.com

Donate to Goodie and the work he’s doing – Venmo @Goodie-Goodloe

Between the World and Me

Jesus and the Disinherited

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007 – Jared Wilkins – Race, Formation and This Current Moment

In Episode 7, I talk with my friend, Jared Wilkins, the Lead Pastor at Parkcrest Christian Church in Long Beach, to discuss race, formation and how our current moment affects the way we think about the intersection of those.

We talk about what it means to be “the first” in a space. Why people seem to be more awake to the reality of racial injustice now, how this is a part of our formation into who we were designed and created to be, how White folks are talking to their Black friends right now, and how we can take some basic next steps.

The resources mentioned:

Divided by Faith by Emerson and Smith

Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson (Book)

Just Mercy – Film

13th (Netflix)

Be The Bridge

BTB101

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006 – Job: When My Answers Don’t Make Sense: Episode 5

We interview my daughter Kate about her quarantine experience and she teaches us some slang before we wrap up our final episode in Job

In Job 24, Job takes a turn in the way he talks about suffering where his pain has transformed him in a way where he now sees and advocates for others in their suffering. We’re confronted with what we will do and who we are becoming in our own pain and suffering

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Befriending Your Monsters with Luke Norsworthy

I take a brief break from wrapping up our time in Job to talk to my friend Luke Norsworthy about his newest book, Befriending Your Monsters.

After a bit of banter about Quarantine Stashes and whether you consider sacrificing your son when you name him Isaac, we get into what it means to recognize the monsters beneath the surface in our lives, the value in not running from them, the role that spiritual disciplines play and how we become healthy people who are more of who we’re meant to be.

Luke, his wife Lindsay, and their three daughters live in Austin, TX where Luke is the senior minister of the Westover Hills Church. He is the author of God over Good and Befriending Your Monsters . He also hosts Newsworthy with Norsworthy, a weekly podcast discussing spirituality, Christianity, and anything else that seems newsworthy.

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004 – Job: When My Answers Don’t Work: Episode 4

In Episode 4, we explore how Job responds when his new experiences don’t match what he has previously understood. We talk about living in honest tension, stages of faith, and Walter Bruegemann’s Orientation-Disorientation-Reorientation framework.

Scripture mentioned:

Job 4:3-4, 10:1-3, 10:12-14, 10:17-18, 38:1-12, 42:3-5

Some helpful links:

Bruegemann’s book on the Psalms where he talks about Orientation, Disorientation and Reorientation

James Fowler’s work on Stages of Faith

While, not explicitly mentioned, Richard Rohr’s book, Falling Upward is a fantastic and helpful read for walking through your own growth through different stages of faith

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003 – Job: When My Answers Don’t Work: Episode 3


In Episode 3, we start with an interview with my son Isaac about his Quarantine Stash and move into trying to understand the way that the 3 friends of Job in this ancient book show the typology of the way people of faith try and exert control during suffering by explaining and making sense of things that you can’t make sense of.

Perhaps, we encounter God in our suffering best when we can release our need for control, even for controlling how we define and understand how God works.

Links mentioned:

Isaac’s Quarantine Stash Pics on Instagram Highlights

Mike’s Instagram

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Scripture mentioned:

Job 3:1, 6:15, 4:7-8, 8:3-6, 11:13-17, 5:17-18, 42:7

John 5:39

Exodus 3

002 – Job: When My Answers Don’t Work: Episode 2

We continue exploring what this ancient book is inviting us into today by looking at a small section of Job that forces us to think about what it means to sit in suffering from Job 2:11-13

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001 – Job 1: When My Answers Don’t Work: Episode 1

Welcome to the first episode of Mike’s Podcast. I apologize for some sound issues, as we were having mic issues that I think we have resolved for future episodes.

In this first episode, Mike begins unpacking a theme from the ancient book of Job to understand the question that’s being asked of Job is being asked of us today as we engage in the reality of the COVID-19 Pandemic